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What prophecies were there about Messiah saying where he would be born, would be betrayed and resurrected?

Update:

Yoel, the prophecy of Israel (Jacob) on his deathbed shows Messiah would be of the tribe of Judah. Gen. 49:10 "The sceptre shall not depart from Judah till Shiloh come". David was of Judah. After the captivity, governors of Judea were of that tribe. Judea became a province of Rome at the time of Christ's birth. "We have no king but Ceasar" they later cried, when the sceptre departed from them, being passed to the resurrected Christ who reigns in Heaven now - King of the Kingdom of God, no less.

Update 2:

As for the census at the time of Jesus' birth - there was an earlier one 7BC, of allegiance to Caesar Augustus. 5th century historian Orosius said that Augustus ordered a census of each province everywhere and that all men had to be enrolled. Josephus notes that: "When all the people of the Jews gave assurance of their goodwill to Caesar, and to the king's government, these very men [the Pharisees] did not swear, being about six thousand." That fits in with a triple conjunction 'star' sign.

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  • Derek
    Lv 5
    1 month ago
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    Where born - Micah 5:2 - "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah; thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall be come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

    To be betrayed - Psalm 41:9 - "Yea, mine own familiar friend in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me."

    To be resurrected - Psalm 16:10 - "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."

    Fulfillments: Mat. 2:4-6 - Herod demanded of his chief priests and scribes "where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, 'In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it was written by the prophet [Micah]...' and quoted 5 vs 2.

    John 13:18-28 - Jesus said to the 12 apostles, "One of you is going to betray me... It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread... Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot... But this is to fulfil the scripture" [then quoted Ps 41:9].

    Acts 2:23-36 - Peter explained to thousands of Jews how Jesus was resurrected to fulful what David said in that Psalm as David was a prophet and "knew that God had promised him on oath to place one of his descendants on his throne. Seeing what was ahead, he spake of the the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay" then quoted that Psalm, resulting in 3,000 Jews being converted to Christ that day.

  • 1 month ago

    700 years in advance, the prophet Micah said that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem, Judea.* Who can control where he is born? Isaiah wrote that the Messiah would be killed as a despised criminal, yet he would be buried with the rich class.* All these predictions were fulfilled in Jesus.

    The final piece of evidence involved Jesus’ ancestry. The Bible said that the Messiah would be a descendant of King David.* Because the ancient Jews kept public and private genealogical records, if Jesus had not been of David’s family line, his enemies would have shouted this from the rooftops! But they could not, for Jesus’ link to David was incontestable. Crowds even addressed him as “the Son of David.In 70 C.E.​—37 years after Jesus died—​Roman armies devastated Jerusalem, and the genealogical records were either lost or destroyed. Thus, to be identified genealogically, the Messiah had to appear before 70 C.E.

    How did this realization affect you?

    At Deuteronomy 18:18, 19, it was foretold that God would raise up in Israel a prophet like Moses. Anyone “who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name, I shall myself require an account from him,” God said. My in-depth study of the whole Bible convinced me that Jesus of Nazareth was that prophet.

    Habakkuk 1:12.

    John 1:34.

    Revelation 3:14, King James Version.

    Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1.

    Isaiah 53:3, 7, 9; Mark 15:43, 46.

    Isaiah 9:6, 7; Luke 1:30-32. Matthew chapter 1 records Jesus’ paternal ancestry, and Luke chapter 3, his maternal ancestry.

    Matthew 21:9.

    Source(s): jw.org
  • 1 month ago

    "“You, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, . . . from you will come out for me the one to be ruler in Israel.”" Micah 5:2 

    Fulfillment: "“After Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem.”" <-- FALSE!

    First of all: The ruler was to be of the clan of Bethlehem not just someone who happened to be born in the town of Bethlehem. The 12 tribes of Israel were further subdivided into multiple clans There is no evidence that Jesus was of that clan, nor does any Bible writer claim that he was.

    Luke tells us that the family’s hometown was Nazareth: not Bethlehem Luke 2:39. In his story, he has the family journey to Bethlehem for the sole purpose of taking part in a census see Luke 2:1-7 –not that they had any family ties there (especially since they ended up searching in vain for an inn with a vacancy, rather than spending the night with family.)

    It wouldn’t make much sense to hold the census-taking in Bethlehem if it was a small town - how could it handle the influx of people? but it makes more sense if it was just the clan of Bethlehem that was small. In fact, Bethlehem the city does not seem to be small according to Mt 2:6: “And you, O Bethlehem of the land of Judah, are by no means the most insignificant city…'”

    We know that the census took place in the second term of Cyrenius (aka Quirinius): between 6-9 CE. Yet the visit of the “astrologers” to Herod (when they told him of Bethlehem) would had to have taken place at least eight years earlier–since Herod died in 4 BCE! Someone is lying somewhere, and it’s either Matthew or Luke, or more likely: both.

    There is no record that Jesus was of the clan of Bethlehem or that he was born in Bethlehem or anywhere else. In addition JC  never was a ruler over Israel. So, he did not fulfill any prophecy regarding a “ruler over Israel.” 

    There is more but if the first claim is wrong than why bother with all of them?

    There is nothing about the Messiah being betrayed or ressurected unless maybe..you consider the Talmud one of your sources. This are a number of sources from the Talmud suggesting a Tzaddik which never really dies except of course his physical body can return or be resurrected. There is no evidence I've ever seen of the Messiah needing to come back to life as a prophecy in the bible. 

    For this reason many Chabad Lubavitch Jews proclaim the Rebbe as the Messiah. Is believing the wrong person is the Messiah a problem in Judaism? Not at all. Unless you believe the Rebbe is a demi-god or has changed the religion. There are many reasons Chabadniks believe the Rebbe is or will be the Jewish Messiah but those who want to proclaim him as the Messiah don't know 100%. If you are really Frum i.e. very religious Chabad person, especially those who went to 770 during the Rebbe's lifetime and studied Chabad teachings their entire life like my rabbi for instance will tell you we do think the Rebbe is the Messiah based on our own criteria even though he has physically died. Many other Jewish groups didn't consider the Rebbe to be the Messiah and others don't want to entertain the possibility he will return to finish the job. Partially because that would cause many Jews to entertain JC - God forbid! - or to leave Judaism. Some Jews consider Chabad to be a cult because it is outside of mainstream Jewish thought. You could say the same about the Hasidic dynasty compared to the others outside of Hasidism. I am happy to give you reasons why we think the Rebbe is/will be Mashiach.

    You don't have to believe the Rebbe is Mashiach. A person in Chabad can still believe the Mashiach will be someone else or hasn't arrived or even that the Rebbe didn't meet that criteria. However, there are some who do believe he is/will be. It is either something encouraged or discouraged which we don't openly talk about to people we think will take it the wrong way. Chabad was attacked in Israel many years about this and they said we never said Vadai - for certain, he is Mashiach although we certainly believed/still believe he is/was. Those who lived during the Rebbe's lifetime still feel that way and some will try to influence you or convince you but it isn't something openly teach anymore except in certain places in Crown heights or Israel which is very religious and feel comfortable and strongly believe we must continue to teach the Rebbe is the Messiah. Of course even they are careful what they say to Israelis who aren't religious/not Chabad when putting on tefillin or giving out pamphlets like the Jehovah's Witnesses on their shlichus.

    Source(s): Orthodox Jew
  • 1 month ago

    There are no prophecies about the messiah being betrayed or resurrected. None of that is part of the Jewish scriptures. The Jewish messiah was to be an ordinary man who fulfilled all the prophecies in an ordinary human lifetime.  Christians later went through the Hebrew scriptures looking for things they could pretend were prophecies about Jesus.  The bit about a young woman giving birth was, in context, about a situation happening at that time, not something centuries in the future, but since Christians are told what to see in the Bible before they ever read it, none of them are aware of the context. Psalms are not prophecy, but passages were ripped out and re-purposed as prophecy about Jesus.  The gospel accounts were written specifically to make it sound like Jesus was fulfilling prophecy, which is made abundantly clear when two stories get Jesus born in Bethlehem but raised in Nazareth through two completely different and contradictory stories.

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  • God
    Lv 5
    1 month ago

    There were any messianic prophesies that Jesus fulfilled. 

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    PROPHECY

    "“You, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, . . . from you will come out for me the one to be ruler in Israel.”"

    Micah 5:2

    FULFILLMENT

    "“After Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem.”"

    Matthew 2:1

    PROPHECY

    "“They divide my garments among themselves, and they cast lots for my clothing.”"

    Psalm 22:18

    FULFILLMENT

    "“Now when the soldiers had nailed Jesus to the stake, they took his outer garments and divided them into four parts . . . But the inner garment was without a seam, being woven from top to bottom. So they said to one another: ‘Let us not tear it, but let us cast lots over it to decide whose it will be.’”"

    John 19:23, 24

    PROPHECY

    "“He is guarding all his bones; not one of them has been broken.”"

    Psalm 34:20

    FULFILLMENT

    "“On coming to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so they did not break his legs.”"

    John 19:33

    PROPHECY

    "“He was pierced for our transgression.”"

    Isaiah 53:5

    FULFILLMENT

    "“One of the soldiers jabbed his side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.”"

    John 19:34

    PROPHECY

    "“They paid my wages, 30 pieces of silver.”"

    Zechariah 11:12, 13

    FULFILLMENT

    "“Then one of the Twelve, the one called Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests and said: ‘What will you give me to betray him to you?’ They stipulated to him 30 silver pieces.”"

    Matthew 26:14, 15; 27:5

    Prophecy    Found at    FulfillmentBorn in Bethlehem    Micah 5:2    Luke 2:4-11; John 7:42Called out of refuge in Egypt    Hosea 11:1    Matthew 2:14, 15Entered Jerusalem on an ***    Zechariah 9:9    Matthew 21:1-9; John 12:12-15Betrayed for 30 pieces of silver    Zechariah 11:12    Matthew 26:15; 27:3-10Shepherd struck, flock scattered    Zechariah 13:7    Matthew 26:31, 56Pierced while on the stake    Zechariah 12:10    Matthew 27:49; John 19:34, 37In grave parts of three days, then resurrected    Jonah 1:17; 2:10    Matthew 12:39, 40; 16:21; 1 Corinthians 15:3-8

    OUTSTANDING PROPHECIES CONCERNING JESUS AND THEIR FULFILLMENTProphecyEventFulfillmentGe 49:10Born of the tribe of JudahMt 1:2-16; Lu 3:23-33; Heb 7:14Ps 132:11; Isa 9:7; 11:1, 10From the family of David the son of JesseMt 1:1, 6-16; 9:27; Ac 13:22, 23; Ro 1:3; 15:8, 12Mic 5:2Born in BethlehemLu 2:4-11; Joh 7:42Isa 7:14Born of a virginMt 1:18-23; Lu 1:30-35Jer 31:15Babes killed after his birthMt 2:16-18Ho 11:1Called out of EgyptMt 2:15Mal 3:1; 4:5; Isa 40:3Way prepared beforeMt 3:1-3; 11:10-14; 17:10-13; Lu 1:17, 76; 3:3-6; 7:27; Joh 1:20-23; 3:25-28; Ac 13:24; 19:4Isa 61:1, 2CommissionedLu 4:18-21Isa 9:1, 2Ministry caused people in Naphtali and Zebulun to see great lightMt 4:13-16Ps 78:2Spoke with illustrationsMt 13:11-13, 31-35Isa 53:4Carried our sicknessesMt 8:16, 17Ps 69:9Zealous for Jehovah’s houseMt 21:12, 13; Joh 2:13-17Isa 42:1-4As Jehovah’s servant, would not wrangle in streetsMt 12:14-21Isa 53:1Not believed inJoh 12:37, 38; Ro 10:11, 16Zec 9:9; Ps 118:26Entry into Jerusalem on colt of an ***; hailed as king and one coming in Jehovah’s nameMt 21:1-9; Mr 11:7-11; Lu 19:28-38; Joh 12:12-15Isa 28:16; 53:3; Ps 69:8; 118:22, 23Rejected but becomes chief cornerstoneMt 21:42, 45, 46; Ac 3:14; 4:11; 1Pe 2:7Isa 8:14, 15Becomes stone of stumblingLu 20:17, 18; Ro 9:31-33Ps 41:9; 109:8One apostle unfaithful, betrays himMt 26:47-50; Joh 13:18, 26-30; Ac 1:16-20Zec 11:12Betrayed for 30 pieces of silverMt 26:15; 27:3-10; Mr 14:10, 11Zec 13:7Disciples scatterMt 26:31, 56; Joh 16:32Ps 2:1, 2Roman powers and leaders of Israel act together against anointed of JehovahMt 27:1, 2; Mr 15:1, 15; Lu 23:10-12; Ac 4:25-28Isa 53:8Tried and condemnedMt 26:57-68; 27:1, 2, 11-26; Joh 18:12-14, 19-24, 28-40; 19:1-16Ps 27:12Use of false witnessesMt 26:59-61; Mr 14:56-59Isa 53:7Silent before accusersMt 27:12-14; Mr 14:61; 15:4, 5; Lu 23:9Ps 69:4Hated without causeLu 23:13-25; Joh 15:24, 25Isa 50:6; Mic 5:1Struck, spit onMt 26:67; 27:26, 30; Joh 19:3Ps 22:16, ftnImpaledMt 27:35; Mr 15:24, 25; Lu 23:33; Joh 19:18, 23; 20:25, 27Ps 22:18Lots cast for garmentsMt 27:35; Joh 19:23, 24Isa 53:12Numbered with sinnersMt 26:55, 56; 27:38; Lu 22:37Ps 22:7, 8Reviled while on stakeMt 27:39-43; Mr 15:29-32Ps 69:21Given vinegar and gallMt 27:34, 48; Mr 15:23, 36Ps 22:1Forsaken by God to enemiesMt 27:46; Mr 15:34Ps 34:20; Ex 12:46No bones brokenJoh 19:33, 36Isa 53:5; Zec 12:10PiercedMt 27:49; Joh 19:34, 37; Re 1:7Isa 53:5, 8, 11, 12Dies sacrificial death to carry away sins and open way to righteous standing with GodMt 20:28; Joh 1:29; Ro 3:24; 4:25; 1Co 15:3; Heb 9:12-15; 1Pe 2:24; 1Jo 2:2Isa 53:9Buried with the richMt 27:57-60; Joh 19:38-42Jon 1:17; 2:10In grave parts of three days, then resurrectedMt 12:39, 40; 16:21; 17:23; 27:64; 28:1-7; Ac 10:40; 1Co 15:3-8Ps 16:8-11, ftnRaised before corruptionAc 2:25-31; 13:34-37Ps 2:7Jehovah declares him His Son by spirit begetting and by resurrectionMt 3:16, 17; Mr 1:9-11; Lu 3:21, 22; Ac 13:33; Ro 1:4; Heb 1:5; 5:5

  • Anonymous
    1 month ago

    MATT 2:1, MARK 14:11, JOHN11:25

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