Do you believe Palestine is a real country?
- PrinceLv 62 weeks ago
No I believe that the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem-Cyprus is a real country.
- John PLv 73 weeks ago
Palestine was the name of a part of the Middle East from 1920. It was also the name of that area, within different borders, in older times.
Across the years and the centuries most parts of the world have been divided up differently from how they are now, and names of areas (often not 'countries' as we now use that word) have changed often. The last border dispute between the USA and Canada was resolved in 1903 (Alaska Panhandle). 14 new countries came into being in Europe in the early 1990s.
- 4 weeks ago
No, Palestine is not a country. It is an area of land.
- RobertLv 61 month ago
No, because the use of the name “Palestine” to refer to the land of Israel is misleading. This is because there has never been any indigenous sovereign state of “Palestine” upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to the land of Israel (see below).
The Romans imposed the name “Palæstina” (“Palestine”) on Roman-occupied Judah / Israel, resurrecting the name from the defunct much smaller region of “Philistia” - within which had been the Philistine five city kingdoms. Later the name "Palestine" was resurrected for the British Mandate - Both Roman and British powers being foreign imperial rule.
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“After crushing the [Jewish] Bar Kokhba revolt [135 CE / 779 BH–778 BH], the Roman Emperor Hadrian applied [imposed] the name Syria Palestina to the entire region, that had formerly included Judea province.”
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“[...] After Roman times the name [“Palestine”] had no official status until after [...] the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain [...]”.
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The "Palestinian" Arabs have veracity-issues: Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas complains to United Nations Security Council Feb. 12, 2020, that the offer of a state is like "Swiss Cheese", yet while seated behind the previous "Palestinian" Arab falsehood-propaganda, a place card saying: "State of Palestine": https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/02/11/at-un-abbas-...
The only valid-name for the land belongs to the Jewish-indigenous sovereign states before the Re-establishment of Israel in 1948, which are “Israel” or “Judah”; example:
Post-Biblical history records the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah:
Map of Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah (aka Judea) including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights, with its capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
The Jewish People are indigenous to their ancestral homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence from Biblical times:
Following the Ottoman Turkish defeat in the First World War, the League of Nations in 1921 resurrecting the name “Palestine” from Roman occupation, authorized a British Mandate, whose inhabitants were known as:
“Palestinian Jews” / “Palestinian Arabs”. An administrative region ruled by a foreign imperial power, it was an area that later would be today’s:
Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories - Please compare the second and third maps down, at:
The prior Ottoman Turkish empire did not use any such political name as “Palestine”, but rather Ottoman-occupied Judah / Israel was within the Ottoman province of “Syria”:
What then of the "Palestinian" Arabs?
The “Palestinian Arabs” dropped the name “Arab” from their correct-description so you should not understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
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“... the Zionist project was very attractive to Arabs who were drawn to Palestine by the good wages, healthcare and sanitation offered by the Jews. ... the Arab population of Palestine increased the most in cities where there were large numbers of Jews [...]
[British] restrictions were placed on Jewish immigration in order to appease Arab troublemakers. However, the situation regarding Arab settlement was much more lax. [...]
the Arab population of Palestine had been in a state of flux for centuries and that the overwhelming majority were migrants from the rest of the Arab world and/or the Ottoman empire. This is important because it tells us that the postmodern notion of a deep-rooted Palestinian Arab history/culture is bogus. [...]
This explains why, historically, Arabs never talked about Palestinian identity - because there wasn’t one. They were Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan, Iraqi and Ottoman Arabs, and many of them expressed allegiance to the concept of a Greater Syria.”
“Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather:
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The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews:
The reader may also consider how there could be propaganda that the “Palestinian” Arabs have allegedly any sincere emotional-attachment to the Jewish ancestral homeland of Israel, when:
The "Palestinian" Arabs attempted to take over Jordan by force in 1970 to 1971.(Please see the source which I have put into the "Sources" area of this answer.):
The Palestinians attempted to take over Lebanon by force and were likely the cause of its civil war, in 1975 - See pages 36 to 37 (PDF pages 40 to 41) of: “DevelopmentOfPalestinianMilitancy_Role in Lebanese CivilWar by Christine E_Ganley” (copy saved to):
Contributor Dubbs wrote:
"a province of the Ottoman Empire and then Egypt until after World War II".
There was no such province under the Ottomans (see above).
His reference to Egypt, is to the Egyptian illegal-occupation of Gaza, as the: "All-Palestine Protectorate", aka "All-Palestine", aka "Gaza Protectorate", aka "Gaza Strip"; again being rule by a foreign power - See Wikipedia.
I hope this helps.
Robert.Source(s): Additional source to which reference is made in my answer: The Palestinians attempted to take over Jordan by force in 1970 to 1971: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_J...
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- DubbsLv 62 months ago
No, it wasn't a country, but more so a province of the Ottoman Empire and then Egypt until after World War II, it was partitioned and became Israel.
This was preplanned since after World War I when the Ottoman Empire was so heavily in debt the land was essentially used as collateral.
A state being partitioned isn't uncommon, it happened 3 times to Poland during the late 18, early 1900's.
Although Poland ceased to be a country for the better part of a century, there with still people with Polish and Lithuanian blood that often rebelled and fought to bring their country back.
This is currently the situation in Palestine. People identify themselves as Palestinians and aspire to claim national sovereignty.
- RichardLv 72 months ago
There NEVER was a country called "Palestine." Throughout history "Palestine" referred to an administrative area. The "Palestinian nationality" was invented by some Middle Eastern Arabs in 1967.