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Who will be the first to puncture the false belief that Jesus was the first of God's Creation?

At the end of 3 days I will submit my answer.

Update:

I added my comment because I thought no one would answer,

Thank you Annsan and others for good and different views 

from my own.

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  • 11 months ago
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    The Bible itself did that, nearly 2,000 years ago! The Greek word for 'created' is never applied to Jesus Christ, in the Bible. Nowhere is there even 1 verse saying Jesus was created. 'Only-begotten' is used, which does not mean created. 'First-born' is used, which when speaking of Jesus and Isaac does not mean literally born first. Isaac was literally born second, as Abraham’s second son. But he was the child of promise who foreshadowed the ‘first-born’ Son of God who actually was the unique child of promise who gave Himself to be sacrificed as the only perfect, sinless sacrifice for sin there has ever been.

     

    When the uncreated Word of God became Jesus, He told people He existed before Abraham (Jn 8:57-59) and Jn 1:1-14 shows He existed before time, and creation started! He made everything that was made, logically showing He could not have been made Himself!

     

    Some people try to interpret Proverbs 8 as ‘proof’ that Jesus was created, for it speaks of God bringing forth His Wisdom from the beginning, before the world began. But this requires liberties being taken with the text, some rendering verse 22 as “Jehovah himself produced me at the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements”. They are the same ones who have corrupted Jn 1:1 to lower Christ, the Word, to a demi-god. They are the ones who have invented a tense in Greek grammar to try to justify warping Jn 8:58 as ‘Before Abraham I have been’. They are the ones who have changed Heb 1:6 to get away from God commanding all His angels to worship Christ. They are the ones who say Jehovah created the first angel, called Michael, who later became Jesus, teaching that a creature, an angel, died for our sins! But the Bible says in Heb 1:3 that the Son is the exact representation of God’s very being, so they are teaching that God has the being of an angel! Blasphemy!

    In Col. 1:15 it says that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, “the firstborn OVER all creation”, not “the firstborn OF all creation” as those warpers of scripture translate. As ‘firstborn’ here means priority over all else, it does not mean having a starting-point in time. Likewise, vs 18 adds that Jesus is “the firstborn from the dead” but that does not mean He was the first to be literally raised from the dead! The verse shows that His unique resurrection gives Christ the supremacy over all. But those who warp scripture will not have that. And it is when you see the extent of scriptural corruption that those who say Jesus was created have to go to, that you know the Bible disproves them – when it is allowed to ‘speak’ without man-made interpretations stuck on to it. There is much more that could be said to prove from the Bible that Jesus was never created, but hopefully you will add further points. 

  • Mike
    Lv 7
    11 months ago

    So we have to wait 3 days for your wisdom - doesn't seem fair we have to wait.

    If you have the truth why not share it.

  • David
    Lv 7
    11 months ago

    Scripture tells us that Jesus created ALL things, in heaven and on earth. How could the CREATOR be a CREATED?

  • 11 months ago

    Yeshua is the firstborn before there was any creation Col 1:15 KJV

    Yeshua is the image of the invisible YHVH GOD, the firstborn over all creation. HSCB.

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  • Colossians 1:15 says that Jesus Christ in his pre human form was God's first creation.

  • Anonymous
    11 months ago

    So Jesus had lived longer than Adam did when he was crucufied?

       

  • 11 months ago

    Hebrews 7 describes Melchisedec as being "like unto the Son of God (Jesus)".

    The description is as follows:"Without father, without mother, without DESCENT, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God (Jesus); abides a Priest continually".

    Paul, led by the Holy Spirit, testified of the divinity of Mechisedek and Jesus the Christ. These are clearly uncreated Beings.

    This is a description of the Christ that extinguishes all arguments against His being created.

    First, to me, means above.  Jesus is above God's creation

    Greek rendering of first born

    FIRSTBORN 4416 prototokos.  Root is  FOREMOST 4413 Protos. Root is FORE, IN FRONT OF, PRIOR, SUPERIOR 4253 PRO

    BORN 5088 tikto, teko. PRODUCE

    Firstborn in the original Greek rendering means SUPERIOR PRODUCT.

    The Product here is the product of God, which can only be God Himself. Of God = is God. Superior produce of God that is above creation - being God.  Not of creation.

  • Paul
    Lv 7
    11 months ago

    Jesus wasn't created. He existed from all eternity. 2,000 years ago He took on a human nature, but that wasn't "creation".

  • Anonymous
    11 months ago

    First lets look at the actual (KJV) passage

    Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

    Of course thats Christ speaking. 

    What does he mean by "the beginning of the creation of God"?

    In Gen 1 we read:

    Gen 1:3 ¶ And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    This is the first of many veiled references to Jesus Christ "the light of the world"

    Jhn 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

    Jhn 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

    And that answers the question often asked here >>> how/why did God create light before the sun? 

    Jesus was present at creation but BEFORE creation. Jesus was not a creation of God. He IS God. Jesus was present at the beginning of creation. The way it was translated is "the beginning of the creation of God." Its a flawed confusing translation of the original Greek.  

    In the list of creation events, Jesus then is listed first. The reason - God created all things by, for and through Jesus Christ. Scripture figuratively calls Jesus "the finger of God." Jesus was Gods modus operandi. 

    Col 1:15 ¶ Christ is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    Col 1:16 >>>>For by him were all things created,<<<< that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: >>>>all things were created by him, and for him:<<<<

    >>>>Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.<<<

    Light (Jesus) was the first aspect of Gods creation. God called Jesus forth out of heaven, and through him God made everything FOR Jesus.  

    Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Jhn 1:14 ¶ And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

  • 11 months ago

    1 and a half days. friday evening to sunday morning. all of saturday, plus a quarter day on either side of it. 1.5 days.

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