Jeff Engr asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 7 years ago

Global Warming and the Sun - Will this resolve the issue?

Solar Cycle 24 is pettering out.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/index.html

September is trending significantly lower that August which is where teh attached charts stops.

This study demonstrates how Cylcle 24 will be dead - i.e. zero sunspots by 2015.

http://www.cdejager.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09...

These three studies confirm the Variable Solar Dyanmo Study.

From: National solar Observatory, Jet propulsion Laboratory, and the Air force Research Lab.

http://www.space.com/11960-fading-sunspots-slower-...

So, given we had predictions and Cycle 24 is folloing the predicted trend. Knowing that cycle 25 is projected to be weaker, possible far weaker than 24 or possibly non-existent, will this resolve the issue of what forces are more powerful. Man caused CO2 or Nature?

I FEAR the answer will be yes. What are your thoughts?

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  • Anonymous
    7 years ago
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    That along with the PDO and AMO going negative, I see that we may be in for a very cold spell for awhile.

  • 7 years ago

    These three studies confirm the Variable Solar Dyanmo Study.

    From: National solar Observatory, Jet propulsion Laboratory, and the Air force Research Lab.

  • 7 years ago

    Sunspot activity is less than usual (see the source).

    I recall back in the 1970s people predicting a new ice age coming soon. But that was also the time we first became aware of global warming. So I do recall some people saying that global warming may be saving us from plunging into a new ice age. Or maybe you could say the coming ice age is saving us from global warming.

    This is why I prefer to call it a CO2 pollution problem instead of a temperature problem. There is no argument about the CO2 rise. Unlike temperature, reliable direct measurements go back hundreds of thousand of years (with the data from long ago coming from direct modern measurement of air bubbles trapped in ice sheets for millenia). And the trend is alarming. We have already changed the balance of CO2 in the atmosphere 30%. We have changed the balance of the ENTIRE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE by THIRTY PERCENT! And we are increasing the rate of change each year, so it will not be long before we have changed it 100% Doubled the CO2! CO2 may still be a minor part of the air, but it IS is a poison gas. That is just alarming!

  • 7 years ago

    Unfortunately not. The 'issue' is not scientific; it never has been. If it were scientific, it would have been resolved when it became obvious that the surface temperature dataset has been 'tweaked', the upper tropospheric hotspot was shown by the radiosonde data to not exist, the satellite data contradicted the surface temperature data, and the hockey stick was shown to be a product of 'mannian statistics', etc.

    There will simply be yet another ad hoc hypothesis that will blame the climate--whatever it does--on industrial civilization. It is, as Le Bon described, a 'religious sentiment'. It is 'incontrovertible'.

    "You can argue against a belief any more than you can against a hurricane."

    --Gustav Le Bon, "The crowd: A study of the popular mind"

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  • 7 years ago

    That issue was resolved in the 1980s.

  • JimZ
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    7 years ago

    Yep. I worry more about the cold from natural causes than the warmth from human causes. I think the consequences of the former are probably a lot worse if/when they come to pass.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    Solar activity has not been driving the current acceleration of GW, it is human induced greenhouse gas emissions. The sun is not going to start a cooling period either, that is rubbish also.

    http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/climate...

  • 7 years ago

    Cutting and pasting 4 year old graphs ripped out of all context by science deniers "resolves" nothing.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    It might, especially if the warming continues.

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